BumpZee, Follow, Nofollow And What You Can Do About It.
February 8, 2007 – 11:57 pmShortly after Mark over at 45n5 raised concern about SEO effects that BumpZee is already having in search engines. Scott the founder of BumpZee, good guy that he is, immediately implemented an outstanding option in your account where you can tell BumpZee to attribute “nofollow” rule to all the links pointing to your blog.
As with any other community driven websites, BumpZee is beginning to rank high in the search engines, its just the nature of community driven websites. Inflow of content on community driven sites (like Digg for example) is much higher than on other websites and therefore these community sites are loved by search engine spiders. So it is very likely that titles for your own posts maybe indexed at BumpZee way before the spider decides to come back to your website. Consequently BumpZee may very well rank highier for the keywords in your title.
While I am enjoin the fact that BumpZee is in the top of my “referrers” and do not mind at all if some of what I have written will be reflected on BumpZee first. If you do, now you have an option to tell BumpZee that all links to your blog should have “nofollow” rules. All you have to do is to login to your account and edit your blog settings.
Also you can consider another option. When editing your blog’s settings at BumpZee you can opt-out from displaying a “snippet” of your post, then only the title will be displayed.
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31 Responses to “BumpZee, Follow, Nofollow And What You Can Do About It.”
thanks for the mention and link
By 45n5 on Feb 9, 2007
From an SEO perspective, you should use followable link, so that search engines can attribute the original source.
The only solution would be to block all your content with robot.txt, or even the whole site - that is just not a sensible solution.
Having you content will help to have your site indexed more frequently. Aaron Wall has written that caching frequency is a good indication of trust from the search engines. The more you can encourage search engines to visit, the better.
By Andy Beard on Feb 9, 2007
Andy thanks for the insight, if I understand you correctly you are talking about long term benefits? Short term bigger sites will be always ahead of the game?
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Mark, you welcome.
By Vlad on Feb 9, 2007
Actually the benefits are both short and long term.
Encouraging Google to spider your site more frequently should be a high priority, and for Google to know the original source for an article, the link has to be followed.
That is how they work now, who knows in the future.
By Andy Beard on Feb 9, 2007
Thank you Andy. It’s a pleasure to have you commenting on my site!
By Vlad on Feb 9, 2007
Andy wrote .. “Encouraging Google to spider your site more frequently should be a high priority” .. I’ve been telling this to my webbie SEO friends for a long time .. keep those bots coming and moving deep. - And I wonder if it will be even more important for Google rankings now that (according to Matt Cutts) .. G is doing almost daily updates .. every few days as far as I can tell ..
By Serollah on Feb 9, 2007
Hello! The Bumpzee links that have your blog post title in the anchor text are links to your blog post = good.
The Title of the Detail Page has your post title in it, yeah, but no link with the keywords in the anchor point to it.
Accept the Link Love from Bumpzee, send Scott a nice thank you email and get over it :).
By Carsten Cumbrowski on Feb 9, 2007
From an “SEO perspective”…
Creating a duplicate copy of your articles title on a more authoritative domain is supposed to help your SEO? Give me a break. I’ve already shown that bumpzee will outrank me. That isn’t debatable.
Isn’t the point of “SEO” to rank the highest?
“Encouraging Google to spider your site more frequently should be a high priority”, at the cost of having the encouraging site rank higher? No thanks.
By 45n5 on Feb 9, 2007
If you are syndicating your content and not ranking for a title search, then you probably need all the links you can get and wouldn’t rank for anything in your content anyway.
Oh and a ps. the Squidoo lenses are nearer the top because they were newly discovered a bit later than other sites.
Reviewweb seems to have dropped down quite a few places, I expect that to happen with the articles and Squidoo soon as well.
If you really think syndication is a bad thing, make sure you never ping your blog anywhere.
Bumpzee is much better to “ping” than Technorati, because that link they give back guarantees that long term you will be looked on as the original source.
It is very similar with article marketing - when you first publish your article, sites like EzineArticles.com might out-rank you, but long-term if you include a link in your foot back to the original artcle (not to your root domain), you will out-rank the article sites.
As a real example, search in Google for Lifelong Customers - I rank about 5th, and then there are a stream of article sites with the same article.
A lot depends on your site structure of course.
By Andy Beard on Feb 9, 2007
Andy, and you are talking about syndicated content, whole articles. We are talking here about the same title only, because that’s all there is to it.
45n5: Bumpzee will outrank you for a search for your post title, if you have a new site in Google’s Sandbox. That should change once Google counts your site 100% without any “penalties”.
Your post title is hopefully backed up by the post content. If your Title is unrelated and the only place where you have your keywords on the page, yeah, Bumpzee will outrank you among a lot of other sites. Pretty much everybody with content relevant to the Keywords. Pretty much.
By Carsten Cumbrowski on Feb 9, 2007
“Oh and a ps. the Squidoo lenses are nearer the top because they were newly discovered a bit later than other sites.”
They are at the top! That is my point!
With hype products you want to rank TODAY for the term, hence go write at squidoo.
And the difference between pinging weblogs.com and bumpzee is, bumpzee takes your post title and potentially adds many comments (or content) behind that title, they aren’t simply an aggregator only.
By 45n5 on Feb 9, 2007
btw, squidoo has lasting power also. Search for laptop bag on google. Squidoo ranks #1 with a nice affiliate page.
By 45n5 on Feb 9, 2007
“squidoo has lasting power also”, SOMETIMES, I meant to say.
By 45n5 on Feb 9, 2007
Syndication is syndication.
Google search for
“Lifelong Customers for Sharing Your Knowledge”
That is the full article headline
2 weeks ago that same article on my site appeared 5th. (I included a screenshot in a blog post 23rd Jan)
I didn’t help Google out very much because the resource box didn’t have a link back to my original article.
Now lets look at a much more recent article / post combination.
“Articles Are Seeds of Knowledge - A Biblical Look at Duplicate Content”
I now have a lot more links and trust, and I linked back to the original blog post. The article is almost immediately allocated to me.
I honestly wouldn’t use nofollow at Bumpzee - it is helping you.
Only yesterday a new site splogged 10 of my full posts. The link back to me in the title was to my Feedburner feed, but there were links all through the content, and in the footer to the original URL. The splogger was also using trackback.
He has a perfect right to use my content, that is the way I license it. All I did was block his site from trackbacks because it was over doing things a little.
By Andy Beard on Feb 9, 2007
717 backlinks to a single page tends to do things like that. 622 of those are external links.
Being the number one lens in shopping helps with all kinds additional links on Squidoo so the site doesn’t get buried.
By Andy Beard on Feb 9, 2007
“717 backlinks to a single page tends to do things like that. 622 of those are external links.”
Being at the top first (like day job killer) sure does help your chances of getting those backlinks
By 45n5 on Feb 9, 2007
“I honestly wouldn’t use nofollow at Bumpzee - it is helping you.”
Sounds good to me, I think the other way. The beauty of it is there is the option for you to have it your way and me to have it mine.
By 45n5 on Feb 9, 2007
And the traffic from Bumpzee will come nicely your way, pre-sold, if the comments are nice
I have some squidoo lenses myself which I created a year ago. The Lens ranks in the top 10, so does the page the lens refers to as source. Great, two spots for me, instead of one. The lens has content that matches (but is not the same). Other lenses don’t rank like that. So if bumpzee ranks together with your page, be glad.
By Carsten Cumbrowski on Feb 9, 2007
Wow! I did not realize there is a discussion on here.
Carsten, thanks for stopping by. Just clarify, I am happy and thankful that Bumpzee is sending my way some visitors.
Mark, thanks for keeping up this dicussion!
Andy, as always, great to hear your insights!
Serolloah, thanks for stopping by.
By Vlad on Feb 9, 2007
No problem Vlad, it’s always a good time
And i still conclude “The beauty of it is there is the option for you to have it your way and me to have it mine.” which was the point of your post…
By 45n5 on Feb 9, 2007
You might find this link interesting as well
http://www.billhartzer.com/pages/timing-of-link-credit-for-new-links/
The only yardstick I am comparing to on the Day Job Killer results is Andre Chaperon, because he has an aged PR6, compared to my very young domain with PR5. We both had pages up within a few hours of each other on 30th January.
Also don’t forget the long tail, which actually brought in as much traffic for me as specific search.
By Andy Beard on Feb 9, 2007
Andy,
I am glad you have brought up the long tail. I don’t believe that every one realizes that long tail is resposabile for 90%(this site) of all search traffic. I have just started to pay closer attention to long tail and can tell you that some of my articles come up on the first pages of the search engines for keywords that are not in the title. It is rare and they do not keep the position for long but provide some good insights.
For the bigger sites I imagine long tail is resposible for 99.9% for natural search traffic.
By Vlad on Feb 9, 2007
Mark, you nailed it. That was exactly my point. Also that is why I believe that BumpZee is turning into a great community.
I think “nofollow” topic surfaced again and became hot after Wikipedia’s change. While intially did not welcome Wikipedia’s move, I think I am changing my mind now.
When it comes to sites like Digg, Plugim and other similar ones, move to “nofollow” my prove to be devastating, imho. While these sites have alot of fresh content, much of that content is submited with hope to be dugged, plugged, bumped to the front page but also with hope to get a link to your site. At least it is my intention.
Unfortunately there are many articles on these social sites that were dugged and plugged and even commented on by users who did not even bother to read the source, and alot of that is happening there. But who cares I got link from them right? The moment Digg or others introduces “nofollow” I am dropping their plugin buttons and anything other link poiting to their site because in my eyes they would loose any credibility.
BUT! If they followed Scott’s example and implemented option for users to chose whethere or not to use “nofollow” maybe it will calm some diggers down over “blog submitions”.
By Vlad on Feb 9, 2007
“I believe that BumpZee is turning into a great community”
agreed. Now if I can just get everybody to agree with all my opinions there, lol
Just kidding, I learn also.
Thanks for the link andy.
By 45n5 on Feb 9, 2007
I have just recently joined the BumpZee do-follow community and I think it’s a wonderful idea. I totally agree with Vlad, since sites like Digg if nofollow is used the sites will just see a short term traffic peak and slowly dies away.
But then I guess any traffic is better than no traffic, right?
By cin97 on Jun 2, 2007
Cin97,
Thanks for stopping by. I think one of the things that turned me off from Digg, besides being banned, was the ignorance of some of the members. At BumpZee if no one likes your posts you simply do no receive “bumps”.
By Vlad on Jun 2, 2007
I think that this is such a great concept to have do follow. I don’t know a lot about bumpzee. Have you used it a lot and if so what benefits do you see from it?
By Cade @ Write To Right on Jun 10, 2007
yeah… !
Wonder what happen if we all use nofollow on our websites? And how about DMOZ & Yahoo directory.
Have a good one.
By SEO on Jul 22, 2007